Yogurt Starter Mystery

topic posted Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:45 PM by  offlinekanewai
I've been making my own yogurt at home. Nothing scientific - I had organic yogurt to warm milk, stir, then put the pot in an oven overnight. I don't turn the oven on - the light from the lamp is warm enough to let it turn into yogurt.

I use my homemade yogurt as a starter for the second batch, although it never tastes quite the same.

And if I use the same starter again, I get this sour tasting yogurt the third round. After a couple days it's too sour to use.

Anyone know how come? And how I can stop this from happening? Or should I just buy new starter each time?
posted by:
kanewai
Honolulu
  • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

    Fri, April 25, 2008 - 6:57 PM
    That's weird. I can use my own yogurt for the next batch around six times before I need a fresh batch to start with.
    I can't think of why this wouldn't happen for you.
    Did you start with yogurt, or a powdered starter?

    As for buying new starter each time, I thought I'd share what I do:
    I buy a quart of good yogurt and use a few spoonfuls to start my own raw/local batch.
    The rest of the quart gets frozen in ice cube trays so I have some on hand the next time I need it.
    Once I have cubes, I put them into sealed bags. I use two cubes to make a half-gallon of yogurt.

    It's so cool how the cultures can survive the cold. They just seem to hibernate until we bring them up to mammal temperature.
    What a nice coincidence for us all. :)
    • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

      Mon, April 28, 2008 - 3:48 AM
      That sounds like the way to do it - I didn't know yogurt could survive the icebox! I've always just used yogurt as a starter.

      I hadn't thought of wild yogurt before - or wild bacteria, I guess. I live in the tropics, so we might have stuff floating around here that you don't get in temperate places. This explanation makes sense to me.
  • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

    Fri, May 23, 2008 - 10:18 PM
    elevation will effect your cultures. this could be the variable determining how often u need a fresh starter. When I traveled through the Andes in South America, all the yogurt was very runny due to the high elevation.

    Thanks for the ice test tip!
    • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

      Sat, May 24, 2008 - 2:23 PM
      Hey all, as long as we're on the topic of yogurt...I just made my first batch, and it is smooth and mild flavored, but way too liquidy, more like a yogurt drink...any tips on getting it to thicken up next time around? Perhaps it is the elevation, as Tamaura stated about the Andes, though I am only at around two thousand feet here.
      • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

        Sat, May 24, 2008 - 7:22 PM
        Homemade pure yogurt tends to be runny.

        Leaving it for longer might help next time, but it might not.
        Some people do what the pros do and add powdered milk, and others use cheesecloth to strain out some of the extra liquid.
        I just got used to it :)
        • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

          Sun, May 25, 2008 - 8:59 PM
          The woman who brings my milk told me today that the culture affects the thickness...she uses a Bulgarian culture that she is going to let me try, so, we'll see how that goes. She also told me that most store bought brands can't be cultured over and over(can't recall the term she used for this), but that the Bulgarian culture can be re-used for months.
  • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

    Sun, June 1, 2008 - 8:26 AM
    do you heat your milk?You are suppose to heat your milk first just to the point before it gets too hot to put your finger in it. I forget the temp actually because I use the old fashioned finger in the pot method. Then you add your yogurt starter and allow it to ferment for 8 hours in a warm place. The longer you let it sit the more tart it gets so if you are leaving it over 8 hours that may be part of it.
    • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

      Sat, July 12, 2008 - 7:54 AM
      This thread got me all excited to try making my own yoghurt... I've discovered that a good thermos is the perfect incubator for mine. I'm still using Yogourmet starter while I work out the bugs. They say to heat to just before it starts to boil (120?) and to cool to 108-112 degrees before adding the starter. You might try New England Cheese Supply for some pro help. I know they sell a starter especially for reculturing.

      April


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      • Re: Yogurt Starter Mystery

        Sat, July 12, 2008 - 8:35 AM
        I got my recipe from an old article in the Philadelphia Inquirer years ago.
        The author stated the same temps but said the finger method was her grandmothers way of doing it,LOL.

        So when I first started making my own yogurt I did not have a thermometer and used the finger method and it always worked.

        My oven no long has a pilot lite for the low heat you need fermenting it so your tip about the thermos is something I will try.

        I haven't made yogurt since getting my new oven, thanks.

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